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Assumptions


18650 Battery Assumptions

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage3.7v
Max Voltage4.2v
Cutoff Voltage3.0v
Capacity2500mAh


Configuration Options

This section will look at the pros and cons of a 3S versus 4S configuration.

3S  (9V-12.6V)

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage (3 x 3.7v)11.1v
Max Voltage (3 x 4.2v)12.6
Min Voltage (3 x 3.0v)9v
Cells in Series for Voltage3

Pros:

  • Can charge it from the car
  • Works with most chargers (solar and car chargers)

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  • Would not get full capacity when using with an inverter. The inverter would shut off at 10.5v.

4S (12V-16.8V)

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage (4 x 3.7v)14.8v
Max Voltage (4 x 4.2v)16.8v
Min Voltage (4 x 3.0v)12.0v
Cells in Series for Voltage4

Pros:

  • Would be able to use the full capacity of the battery when converting to AC.

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  • Would need to step down the voltage to 12v which may introduce some losses.
  • Could not charge it off of the car 

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Configuration

Battery Spec

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3S56P - (

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130 Ah)

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage (3 x 3.7v)11.1v
Max Voltage (3 x 4.2v)12.6
Min Voltage (3 x 3.0v)9v
Cells in Series for Voltage3

Parallel Cells to Get Capacity

80Ah/2.0Ah

3256
Total Cells Required96168
SpecificationDetails
Capacity
64
112-
73
128.
6
8 Ah
Cell Capacity2.0-2.3 Ah
Cells 
3x32
3x56=
96 cells

If we build 2 of these and connect them together we get

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168 cells


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Battery Capacities and Pack Configurations

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlgodp0UQAi1QGu0aGxJdH-wnCkg5dZosCjmBs_kSDo/edit#gid=0

Rpackr Configuration:

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The Plano 50 Cal Ammo Box will can hold 2 of these packs for a total of 150Ah ( 192 cells (about 150Ah).


Battery Management System

50A BMS

3Series 50A 11.1V/12V/12.6V BMS PCB Protection Board for 18650 3S 100A Li-ion Lithium 18650 BMS Battery Charger Protection Board Battery Cell with Balance

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Features
Continuous Discharge Current: 50A
Momentary Discharge Current: 150A
Charge Voltage:
FeatureDetailsLarge discharge current100AInstantaneous discharge current150ACharging voltage
12.6V
Large charge current10AOvercharge detection voltage
Charge Current: 50A
Overcharge Detection Voltage: 4.28±0.
05V
025V
Overcharge
protection delay
Protection Delay: 0.5S
Overcharge
release voltage
Cancel Voltage: 4.08±0.1V
Power balance detection voltage
Balance Detection Voltage: 4.20±0.
05VPower balance release voltage
025V
Balance Cancel Voltage: 4.20±0.05V
Electricity balance current42±5mA
Balance Current: 60±5mA
Over
discharge detection voltage
-discharge Detection Voltage: 2.8±0.1V
Overdischarge detection delay
Over-discharge Detection Delay: 0.1S
Over
discharge release voltage
-discharge Cancel Voltage: 3.0±0.1V
Overcurrent
detection voltage
Detection Voltage: 150mV
Overcurrent
detection delay
Detection Delay: 9mS
Overcurrent
protection current200±10AOvercurrent protection release conditionDisconnect the loadShort circuit protection conditionsExternal load short circuitShort circuit detection delay250uSMain circuit conduction resistance≤25mΩWorking current≤20uASleep current (when battery is over)≤10uASize8.2x5.1cm/3.23x2.01inch

Test Results of Batteries

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Protection Current: 200±10A
Protection Cancel Condition: Disconnect Load
Short Circuit Protection Condition: Outside Load Short Circuit
Short Circuit Detection Delay: 250uS
Protection Cancel Condition: Disconnect Load
Main Circuit Conduction Internal Resistance: ≤25mΩ
Working Current: ≤30uA
Sleeping Current(Battery Over-discharge): ≤10uA
Operating Temperature:﹣30℃~﹢80℃
Size: 75×51.5×15mm/2.95×2.02×0.59"


100A BMS

3Series 50A 11.1V/12V/12.6V BMS PCB Protection Board for 18650 Li-ion Battery Cell with Balance


Battery Hookup Modem Batteries

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We spot tested tens of thousands of these cells and they came out around full capacity overall. These are a great source of genuine LG 2200mah cells because the modem batteries are either never used at all or they were used as backup only with less than 3 cycles. Modem batteries only gets cycled hen a house loses power which is very rare in our region.


Brand:LG
Model:LGDAS31865 (ICR18650S3)
Capacity:2200mAh Rated
Voltage:3.60V Nominal
Charging:4.20V Maximum
1075mA Standard
2150mA Maximum
Discharging:3.00V Cutoff
430mA Standard
3225mA Maximum
Description:Blue Cell Wrapper
White Insulator Ring
18650 Form Factor

Almost every pack we opened had the light blue lg cells, some had dark blue lg cells with the same specs. Either way they are all name brand cells, the best ones out there

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Packaging


I bought Plano 50 Cal Ammo Box, Black

Interior dimensions: 11.25" x 5.5" x 7" 

Build

Battery Capacities

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlgodp0UQAi1QGu0aGxJdH-wnCkg5dZosCjmBs_kSDo/edit#gid=0


Rpackr Configuration:

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Build Pictures

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Revised Build Pictures

Added 100A BMS and additional wiring to support the load. Then added terminals and USB and 12V port.

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Added a battery meter

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References

ReferenceURL
Buying Used Batterieshttps://batteryhookup.com/
Battery Pack Calculatorhttp://repackr.com/