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Assumptions


18650 Battery Assumptions

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage3.7v
Max Voltage4.2v
Cutoff Voltage3.0v
Capacity2500mAh


Configuration Options

This section will look at the pros and cons of a 3S versus 4S configuration.

3S  (9V-12.6V)

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage (3 x 3.7v)11.1v
Max Voltage (3 x 4.2v)12.6
Min Voltage (3 x 3.0v)9v
Cells in Series for Voltage3

Pros:

  • Can charge it from the car
  • Works with most chargers (solar and car chargers)

Cons:

  • Would not get full capacity when using with an inverter. The inverter would shut off at 10.5v.

4S (12V-16.8V)

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage (4 x 3.7v)14.8v
Max Voltage (4 x 4.2v)16.8v
Min Voltage (4 x 3.0v)12.0v
Cells in Series for Voltage4

Pros:

  • Would be able to use the full capacity of the battery when converting to AC.

Cons:

  • Would need to step down the voltage to 12v which may introduce some losses.
  • Could not charge it off of the car 


Configuration

Battery Spec 3S56P - (130 Ah)

SpecificationValue
Nominal Voltage (3 x 3.7v)11.1v
Max Voltage (3 x 4.2v)12.6
Min Voltage (3 x 3.0v)9v
Cells in Series for Voltage3

Parallel Cells to Get Capacity

80Ah/2.0Ah

56
Total Cells Required168
SpecificationDetails
Capacity112-128.8 Ah
Cell Capacity2.0-2.3 Ah
Cells 3x56=168 cells



The Plano 50 Cal Ammo Box can hold a total of 192 cells (about 150Ah).


Battery Management System

50A BMS

3Series 50A 11.1V/12V/12.6V BMS PCB Protection Board for 18650 Li-ion Battery Cell with Balance


Features
Continuous Discharge Current: 50A
Momentary Discharge Current: 150A
Charge Voltage: 12.6V
Charge Current: 50A
Overcharge Detection Voltage: 4.28±0.025V
Overcharge Protection Delay: 0.5S
Overcharge Cancel Voltage: 4.08±0.1V
Balance Detection Voltage: 4.20±0.025V
Balance Cancel Voltage: 4.20±0.05V
Balance Current: 60±5mA
Over-discharge Detection Voltage: 2.8±0.1V
Over-discharge Detection Delay: 0.1S
Over-discharge Cancel Voltage: 3.0±0.1V
Overcurrent Detection Voltage: 150mV
Overcurrent Detection Delay: 9mS
Overcurrent Protection Current: 200±10A
Protection Cancel Condition: Disconnect Load
Short Circuit Protection Condition: Outside Load Short Circuit
Short Circuit Detection Delay: 250uS
Protection Cancel Condition: Disconnect Load
Main Circuit Conduction Internal Resistance: ≤25mΩ
Working Current: ≤30uA
Sleeping Current(Battery Over-discharge): ≤10uA
Operating Temperature:﹣30℃~﹢80℃
Size: 75×51.5×15mm/2.95×2.02×0.59"

100A BMS

3Series 50A 11.1V/12V/12.6V BMS PCB Protection Board for 18650 Li-ion Battery Cell with Balance


Features
Features
---It can provide protection for 3 cells in series
---Balance Charging function
---heat sink
---10pcs high power & low resistance MOS
Electrical Characteristic
Battery system---NCM, LiMnO2, LCO
Battery Links--- 3S
Input Charging Voltage--- 12.6V
Input Charging Current---10A(MAX)
Output Discharging Current ---100A(MAX)
Peak Discharging Current --- 150A
Operating Temperature --- -30℃ ~ + 80℃
Humidity (No Water-Drop)--- normal RH
Humidity (No Water-Drop) ---normal 0% RH

Protection Parameters (for Individual Cell)
Over-Charge Voltage Protection------------4.28V±25mV
Over-Charge Protection Delay Time -------0.5S
Over-Charge Voltage Protection Release ---4.08 V±50mV
Balance charge detection voltage -----------4.20V±50mV
Balance charge release voltage --------------4.20V±50mV
Balance charge current------------------------42±5mA
Over-Discharge Voltage Protection -------- 2.8 V±100mV
Over-Discharge detection delay-------------0.1S
Over-Discharge Voltage Protection Release -- 3.0V ±100mV
Over-current detection voltage--------------150mV
Over-current detection delay-----------------9mS
Over-Current Protection---------------------200±10A
Over-Current Protection Release -----------Removed the load
Short circuit current protection -------------normal function
Short circuit detection delay-----------------200µS
Short circuit protection Release -------------Remove the load
Current Consumption
Normal Mode ≦20 µA
UVP Mode ≦10 µA
Main circuit conduction resistance-----------≦25 mΩ
PCB dimension including heat dissipation plate---70*51.5*10mm

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We spot tested tens of thousands of these cells and they came out around full capacity overall. These are a great source of genuine LG 2200mah cells because the modem batteries are either never used at all or they were used as backup only with less than 3 cycles. Modem batteries only gets cycled hen a house loses power which is very rare in our region.


Brand:LG
Model:LGDAS31865 (ICR18650S3)
Capacity:2200mAh Rated
Voltage:3.60V Nominal
Charging:4.20V Maximum
1075mA Standard
2150mA Maximum
Discharging:3.00V Cutoff
430mA Standard
3225mA Maximum
Description:Blue Cell Wrapper
White Insulator Ring
18650 Form Factor

Almost every pack we opened had the light blue lg cells, some had dark blue lg cells with the same specs. Either way they are all name brand cells, the best ones out there

Packaging


I bought Plano 50 Cal Ammo Box, Black

Interior dimensions: 11.25" x 5.5" x 7" 

Build

Battery Capacities

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mlgodp0UQAi1QGu0aGxJdH-wnCkg5dZosCjmBs_kSDo/edit#gid=0


Rpackr Configuration:



Build Pictures


Revised Build Pictures

Added 100A BMS and additional wiring to support the load. Then added terminals and USB and 12V port.


References

ReferenceURL
Buying Used Batterieshttps://batteryhookup.com/
Battery Pack Calculatorhttp://repackr.com/


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